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Virginia News Headlines: Thursday Morning

by: lowkell

Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 07:14:07 AM EST

Here are a few Virginia (and national) news headlines, political and otherwise, for Thursday, December 20.

*CNN Poll: Are GOP policies too extreme?
*Bolling breaks with McDonnell, dismissing idea of armed teachers (Sanity!)
*Virginia bill would order schools to arm some teachers or staff (Insanity!)
*Virginia's split personality on gun control
*Guns becoming an issue in Virginia governor's race
*Virginia Tech Survivor Fights Back Against Guns
*Cuccinelli rents Allen's email list but misses mark on fine print (D'oh!)
*Conn. shootings spur flurry of Virginia gun bills
*A rash proposal from the governor ("No idea, apparently, is too absurd for discussion, which is perhaps the only explanation for Gov. Bob McDonnell's willingness to entertain the idea that the way to prevent mass shootings in public schools is to let teachers and administrators carry firearms")
*Gun debate: McAuliffe seeks school police officers, Cuccinelli focused on mental health
*Kaine: We need a multi-prong approach to gun violence ("There is a Second Amendment, but the Second Amendment also needs to be paired with reasonable and common sense restrictions and regulations, just like other constitutional rights")
*In Virginia, expect talk, not changes on gun laws
*Cuccinelli open to armed teachers (Well isn't that a shocker? Heh.)
*Sen. Warner: Gun Laws Alone Won't Solve Problems
*Gun transactions soar in Virginia after Conn. school tragedy
*LG race: Chopra, Northam against arming teachers
*Kaine names additional staffers
*AG race: Obenshain endorsed, Herring opposes uranium
*Military vets urge McDonnell to support uranium mining
*Editorial: Uninsured workers should have a say ("Virginians who can't afford private insurance could be covered under a Medicaid expansion, but legislators must agree.")
*Goodlatte will be key player in gun control debate (To put it mildly, this is NOT a good thing.)
*Va. makes push on health innovation plan
*Man Arrested at Sandy Hook Elementary in Virginia

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Del. Krupicka: "We should not arm teachers." (0.00 / 0)
Over the last few days a number of prominent officials, including our Governor and our top law enforcement officer, Attorney General Cuccinelli, have suggested that the solution to school safety may include arming teachers and principals with guns.  One bill has already been introduced in the House of Delegates to require teachers to carry guns.

I have had an active conversation going on my Facebook page about this topic, but I want to make sure you hear it from me as well. I want to be very clear about where I stand on this.  It is a terrible idea.  People don't go into teaching so they can pack heat. People go into teaching because they are passionate about children and learning. We already ask an amazing amount of teachers. Adding police officer responsibilities to their list crosses about every line there is.

We should be talking about how we keep our schools safe and how we help local school districts place School Resource Officers where they make sense for school safety.  We should be talking about how we expand community mental health services.  And, most importantly, we should be talking about sensible gun reform.  We should not be talking about arming teachers.

Over the coming weeks and during the next legislative session I'll be working on these and many other issues.   I'd welcome your thoughts and suggestions as we work together to ensure our children and our community are safe.

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Cost/benefit analysis (1.00 / 1)
applies when discussing restrictions on gun ownership (e.g., "Well, banning semi-autoamtic won't stop all shootings, but the costs to law-abiding citizens is outweighed by the safety benefits."), but we don't use the same line of reasoning on other issues?  Arming teachers or principals (who get training) ought not even be discussed at all?


What's the need to cut off debate on that issue before it even starts, but all other ideas for restricting gun ownership have to be on the table?

There was a shoting at Macy's last week (0.00 / 1)
Should clerks at stores at every mall in the US get a free gun, ammunition and training too?

There are lots of shootings in urban areas, should residents in the ghettos get free guns, ammunition and training?

There are murders in factories, in offices, in hotels, pretty much everywhere.  Should everyone get a free gun, ammunition and training?

Arming teachers and principles is just so fucking stupid, I'm amazed that even Republicans are advocating it.  

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The gun nuts' answer to EVERYTHING is more, more, more (2.67 / 3)
Of course, in sane countries like Australia, after a massacre like Newtown, they go in the exact opposite direction and guess what? That's right, their gun violence rate plummets, no more mass shootings, etc. But god forbid we try that in the USA.

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Make that case if you want to (1.00 / 1)
I'm not saying there's no argument to be made.  I'm asking a simple question.  If we're going to do cost/benefit analysis on banning guns (or certain types of guns) why not do the same on other ideas?  Can you answer that question?  Are we allowed to have that discussion?  If not, why not?

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Of course you're "allowed" to have a discussion (2.00 / 1)
What kind of question is that? Also, why are you asking me, as if I have any say in what people discuss? As for cost-benefit analysis: sure, let's look at places like Australia, compare to how we're doing here, and then figure out what makes sense. To me, it's obvious. Of course, this isn't scientific, so there's no way to know for sure, but that's life in the real world for ya.

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"No, there should not." (1.00 / 1)
The Pilot editorial unequivocally states that the idea ought not be discussed at all.  Since you linked to it (and cited it with apparent approval), I hope you can understand why I assumed that you might agree with them that no discussion ought to be had.  I'm glad to see that you think the idea ought to be put on the table with everything else.

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I think the idea is utterly insane, but sure... (1.00 / 1)
...go ahead and discuss it, we all have the 1st Amendment right to free speech.

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Why poison the well with words like "insane"? (0.00 / 0)
If it's worthy of discussion, shouldn't you also give those with whom you disagree the benefit of the doubt?

I don't agree that, for instance, limiting magazines to ten rounds would have any effect on situations like Newtown, but neither do I go around calling people who propose that idea "insane" or "gun grabbers."  I think they're wrong, of course, but that doesn't mean I have to resort to ad hominem attacks.

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It's not ad hominem (0.00 / 0)
I think the IDEA of arming teachers is insane, counterproductive, extreme, bizarre, you name it.

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