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BV Interview: Virginia House Democratic Leader David Toscano on What to Look for in 2013

by: lowkell

Wed Dec 05, 2012 at 17:34:35 PM EST


I had a chance to sit down with Del. David Toscano (D-Charlottesville) this afternoon for an interview. Mostly, I wanted to discuss the upcoming 2013 General Assembly session and Virginia elections for governor, LG, AG, and House of Delegates. Of course, given today's breaking news on the Virginia gubernatorial front, I also asked Del. Toscano for comment on Tom Perriello. For that, see Update #2 here. A few other highlights from the interview are as follows. All quotes (bolding added for emphasis and easy skimming) are taken from my audio recording of the interview.

*Odd-year elections give Republicans an inherent advantage, and "the only way you're going to overcome that is grassroots, in-the-field organizing, to make sure you can activate the coalition that brought the victory for Obama in Virginia this past fall."
*"I think Terry understands that...the conservative activists are enthused about Cuccinelli, there's not going to be any lack of enthusiasm on that side. And I think [Terry's] challenge, and our challenge as Democrats, is to make sure we activate the coalition that won us this fall. That's a tremendous challenge; we have to be up for it or we're going to lose."
*"There's no way that we win the election without a substantial African American turnout. Whether that's having a person on the ticket who's African American, or a person or persons who can speak to the needs of that community, you've got to have it...Terry is going to run real hard in those communities, he's going to have Clinton on his side...he'll have Obama on his side; I think that's going to make a big difference."
*"We have to get [the Obama campaign's voter] data...we have to make sure we have those organizers working it again. The good news is we just came off the election so we know where those votes are...if we can get them, or at least close to as many of them as we can, we're going to win; if we can't we won't."
*"We need most [of the Obama campaign data]...Voter IDs are probably not enough, we probably also need to know why it is people did what they did. We've been told that we're going to get most of that data...Now it's all about legacy; part of [Obama's] legacy is getting McAuliffe elected in Virginia...Obama wants to be able to make his stamp on this country; part of that is making sure we get governors in office who are Democrats."
*According to Del. Toscano, we need to make sure voters - including "federal only" voters - understand the importance of local and state elections. "If they don't, we get people running for office at the highest level who are the most rabid conservatives, because they worked their way through the ranks."
*"I think people in leadership at the state level understand that very clearly; so that's why we tried so hard to defeat Cuccinelli in the Attorney General race, because we knew that if he won there, he'd be looking to move up to governor...[or maybe even] president."
*"We have a challenge [regarding voter turnout]...to try to explain how important every single one of these elections is at all levels. I don't think we've really done as good job [at that] as we need to do."
*In terms of whether they vote or not, people tend to judge the presidency as a more important race, "even though there are more things that a city council and a board of supervisors do that affect their individual lives than the president." Also, I pointed out that people's vote counts more/can have more impact at the local and state level, and Del. Toscano agreed.
*According to Del. Toscano, there's "definitely a disconnect" between voter turnout at the local/state level and the importance of voting at the local/state level.

lowkell :: BV Interview: Virginia House Democratic Leader David Toscano on What to Look for in 2013
*I asked Del. Toscano if he thought using social media more effectively could help deal with this "disconnect." Toscano responded, "I think sometimes people don't understand...that the way people get their news now is so fundamentally different from the way the got their news 10 years ago." (By the way, Toscano says the first thing he checks online in the morning is VPAP's news clips, and the second thing he checks is Blue Virginia - gotta love that answer, lol.)
*"People don't understand that [Blue Virginia has] got a readership, that the #1 news source for them is [Blue Virginia]; and there are all these little silos of people out there...elected officials should try to take advantage of that, because that's how they could reach out to these different groups."
*With regard to 2013 House of Delegates races, Del. Toscano noted that "there are 18 [House of Delegates] seats where Republicans now sit as the incumbent where Obama and Kaine got over 50% of the vote."
*"We are working our tails off to get candidates not just in the seats where the Democratic Performance Index is high, but also in the seats where it's low. We want to field as many candidates as we can around the state...there will be some targeting because we don't have unlimited resources...but we've got a lot of candidates who are either committed to running or are about ready to commit."
*"You cannot build a sustainable party without an infrastructure, and you can't build an infrastructure without candidates...I am confident that we're going to have strong candidates [for House of Delegates] in the Obama districts."
*"We'd like to have as many [candidates] committed as we can before the [General Assembly] session starts, because we think part of what we need to do is calling out some of these folks on their votes during the session."
*Of course, "Republicans may [try to] moderate themselves a little bit in this session" but on the other hand they're already on the record on "some very very bad things" and have a lot of "bad votes" (e.g., on "personhood," "transvaginal ultrasound," etc.).
*Big issues for the 2013 General Assembly session include Medicaid expansion, health care exchanges, and transportation.
*On Medicaid, "there's a clear contrast, either you're going to take the federal money to expand Medicaid that will insure some 400,000 Virginians or you're going to let the feds take our money to send it to Connecticut or New York to serve people [there] and give them insurance...That will set up a clear contrast between Democrats and Republicans."
*On transportation funding, Del. Toscano believes "[State Senator John] Watkins' {gas tax} proposal tees that issue up," although "it's not enough and it remains to be seen how far it will go and how many phone calls Grover Norquist makes to House Republicans to tell them they should not ever raise revenue under any circumstances."
*"We're going to see again whether Grover Norquist controls the House of Delegates or whether Virginians control the House of Delegates."
*"There will be some very interesting arguments on education...the governor will try to push a so-called education reform package, which will renew the discussion about charter schools, vouchers; we'll see if he puts more money on the table for teacher salaries."
*"You're going to see on the Republican side more attempts to suppress the vote. And on our side, we're going to have voter expansion...early voters, longer hours at the polls, more money for voting machines so you can lessen the waiting lines...why can't that be a bipartisan position?"
*"If [Republicans] were smart, they would not raise the issue" of "illegal immigration."
*On clean energy and climate change, Del. Toscano says we shouldn't have to worry about the SCC approving the "no brainer" of a simple demonstration project for solar power, but apparently "they're skittish about the potential impact on the rate payer."
*Toscano also notes that Ken Cuccinelli is "ginning up his political base" against the EPA and alternative energy (that it's supposedly costing the consumer "a lot more money"), so "people are very careful right now."
*The bottom line, though, in Toscano's view, is that there's "not much chance of progress [on clean energy and environmental issues] without a fundamental shift in the House of Delegates...have to take the governorship back [as well]."
*Finally, Toscano believes climate change "just don't really seem to engage the public as much as it did a couple years ago."

My recorder ran out of juice at that point, but we only had a few more minutes and that pretty much covers the gist of the interview. Thanks to Del. Toscano for his time today, it's very much appreciated. It was also good meeting former Charlottesville Mayor David Brown, who was with Del. Toscano, sat in on the interview, and added a number of interesting points of his own.

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The OFA voter lists and volunteers (0.00 / 0)
are what several of us Obama workers have asked be shared with/integrated with the Democratic Party, Remember, we desperately wanted it done after '08, and it did not happen, to our regret in the following elections. We need to get this message acrossd at the highest levels; since Kaine is former Chair of the DNC, and a special friend of Obama, maybe he can help in this. Delegate Toscano is sharp and on the ball, and I agree with just about everything he mentioned, but especially with activating the Obama universe of voters for the off-year election. Let's go!

DPVA is Worthless (0.00 / 0)
Lowell and the rest of the Blue Virginia community would be absolutely fine with a comment that starts out attacking DPVA or other people in the organization that he and many others here have criticized over and over again. David Toscano is a wonderful progressive. But he's worthy of criticism as much, if not more so, as the DPVA.  

Going after an institution is different (0.00 / 0)
than attacking one of the leading progressives in Virginia, for no reason.

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We'll See (0.00 / 0)
We have an election next year to judge Toscano on. I have not seen any resolve on his part to invest in the infrastructure necessary to recruit strong candidates, target viable districts, and take down vulnerable Republicans.

Winning is based on money, mobilization, and message. Toscano's never been a strong fundraiser, even he admits that. That is one factor in him backing Terry for Governor. But it's going to take tons of cash to go about trying to mobilize voters at the local level if we don't have a strong statewide ticket that mobilizes voters.

And finally, on messaging, he is a strong progressive and also realizes that not everyone can run like they are in Arlington or Charlottesville. But he's betting too much on the statewide ticket having coattails, instead of building up the capacity within the House caucus to take on Republicans even in a difficult year.


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VA Governor Race (0.00 / 0)
I hate to rain on the parade, but I really have problems with the 'chosen' candidate for governor.  I just can't see him inspiring all of those 'federal' voters we need to win, and giving them a reason to turnout.  The AG, of course, has his supporters and haters out there.  But, as in 2009, you can bet his backers will be out in force.  Our guy will have some base, but even with OFA's list I have problems, again, with turning them out.  

To be honest, the person I was hoping to run isn't or hasn't made a call yet.  That's Sen Webb.  I haven't heard his name mentioned very often, but he'd be the best candidate statewide.  He has support in NOVA and across the state, and would have a better chance at taking voters away from the GOP.  Something our guy has zero chance of doing.  I hope Sen Webb runs.  Maybe he will.

Finally, I hope we aren't waiting for a 'magic' issue to rescue us this year.  The AG is going to say all kinds of things to fire up his base.  I imagine he'll back off comments about women in hopes of their support (or at least not firing Democratic women voters).  His backers already know his credentials, so his focus will be on not acting 'too' crazy.  Any Democratic candidate has to focus on pushing him to behave 'crazy' in 2013 so the voters can see what kind of a nut he really is.  My theme would be 'Is Virginia Ready to have Tea Bagger Governor?'.


I'd say there's 0.00000% chance Webb will run (0.00 / 0)
Actually, on second thought, let me add a few zeroes to that: 0.0000000000000000000000000%. Seriously, though, my guess is that Webb is done with running for office, will return to his life of writing books, maybe making movies, etc. Sounds like a lot more fun to me than going through the nastiness, endless "call time," etc. of running for public office in this country.

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Agree 100% (0.00 / 0)
Jim Webb is extremely uncomfortable with raising money and campaigning. I think he did the state a great service by taking on George Allen (with the help of his "ragtag army" of grassroots and netroots supporters). That said, I fully expect him to return to the vocation that he uses to identify himself - writing. I'm waiting for a book about a military hero who runs for and wins a seat in the U.S. Senate...
:-)

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Where Are They?? (4.00 / 1)
""We'd like to have as many [candidates] committed as we can before the [General Assembly] session starts." OK. Where are these people?  

Where, oh where (4.00 / 1)
have my little lambs gone?
I refer, of course, to the little Democratic lambs going to slaughter, unprotected, unguided, and unfunded by their Party. Over and over again. You can only recruit just so many un-seasoned but hopeful (and naive) individuals to run for office against opponents raised in the nasty stew of Republican party politics, well-funded by generous corporate lobbyists and with a solid base of nutty True Believers, when you yourself get no advice, or at best bad advice, no money, no support (either state or natioal) or training from your nominal Party.  

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