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NBC/WSJ/Marist Poll of Virginia: Obama 49%-Romney 44%; Kaine 46%-Allen 46%

by: lowkell

Thu Sep 13, 2012 at 20:00:03 PM EDT


The main findings from a brand new NBC/WSJ/Marist poll of Virginia?

1. Barack Obama leads Willard "Mitt" Romney by 5 points (49%-44%) among likely voters, by 7 points (49%-42%) among registered voters. So, c'mon, registered voters, move yourselves over to "likely" please! :)

2. Tim Kaine and George Allen are tied at 46% each among likely voters, with Kaine ahead by 1 point (46%-45%) among registered voters. I continue to find it fascinating that Obama's doing better against Romney in Virginia than Kaine's doing against Allen. Are there really Obama-Allen voters out there? It seems highly unlikely to me.

3. Obama's got a +10 favorable rating (53%-43%) in Virginia, compared to Romney's +1 favorable (46%-45%) among likely voters. Again, it's even a little better for Democrats when looking at registered voters.

4. Note that this poll does not include Gary Johnson (Libertarian), Virgil Goode (Constitution) or Jill Stein (Green). My guess is that if they were included, it would bump up Obama by another couple points.

So, overall excellent news, but as always, let's not take this in any way as a signal to slow down our efforts, but instead as the green light to floor it, put the pedal to the metal, and any other cliche you can think of, for the next 53 days (or so) until Election Day!

P.S. Obama leads in Florida (49%-44%) and Ohio (50%-43%) as well. No wonder why Willard's been flailing around, lashing out, acting like a crazy man, etc. recently.

lowkell :: NBC/WSJ/Marist Poll of Virginia: Obama 49%-Romney 44%; Kaine 46%-Allen 46%
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Clearly there are Obama-Allen voters out there... (4.00 / 1)
..which shows that the Kaine campaign has a hell of a lot more work to do defining both its candidate and its opponent.  

Too many people still somehow believe that George Allen is that aw-schucks cowboy-next-door that he pretends to be -- even despite his complete meltdown in the last election, which showed his ugly true colors for what they are.  

People, does the word MACACA not mean anything to you?

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and... (0.00 / 0)
I know at least one romney-kaine voter in my family.  Family life can be annoying.

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There sure are (0.00 / 0)
Obama/Allen voters.  Have been a bit shocked by that fact, but we've seen it in out canvassing and phone banking.

Why? (0.00 / 0)
What motivates them, in your experience?

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Yeah, that's really hard to comprehend. (0.00 / 0)
As opposed to Romney/Kaine voters, which I could at least theoretically see (e.g., people who don't want to vote for a supposed "Muslim" or an African American but who are fine with Kaine).

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Issues ... (0.00 / 0)
I can see some people on the margins being that way, but I'd be surprised if that person was still clinging to the Democratic Party these days.

On the issues I could potentially see a suburban moderate Republican sticking with Romney but voting for Tim Kaine given his recent, and successful, time as Governor.

For Obama-Allen . . . ???


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Because he's considered (0.00 / 0)
"local" more than anything else, I believe...and he plays the part of a good ole' boy very well to that demographic.

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Good Closer (0.00 / 0)
Tim Kaine seems to have this experience. He was behind in most polls a month or two out from election day when he ran for governor, but he closed the gap handily. I don't know what causes this. He's running a textbook campaign. I guess people really have forgotten just how terrible Allen is.  

Kaine's 2005 Close (0.00 / 0)
Back in 2005, Kaine managed to close with his famous "passenger seat" ad.  Just driving around NoVA, talking about policy and values wrt traffic.  It was personal, relevant, and it worked to swing the vote.  

He doesn't have that particular option this time around.  His approach to the legislative process and his willingness to bend to business interests saddled him with some fairly pungent Vdot baggage.

So what will he, what can he do?

I hate to say this, but I think it will all come down to media.  Kaine has a great Media team, including Mo Elithee. Look for some good messaging from Kaine before this thing is done.

Unfortunately, George Allen is a Grand Wizard of ALEC.  So, there will be no shortage of vicious advertising run against Kaine.  

Buckle up!  This is going to be a hell of a ride.  


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What I don't understand is... (0.00 / 0)
...who are these Obama/Allen voters, exactly?  Sounds like a really weird combination to me. I mean, Romney/Kaine voters, perhaps, but Obama/Allen? WTF?

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Kaine-Allen race is worrying (4.00 / 1)
Perhaps I'm over-confident, but an Obama win in Virginia looks reasonable and probable. The reasons are known, not least of which is demographic trends since 2008. The Senate race is troubling, though. Allen is outspending Kaine several times over and the deluge of negative ads won't let up until voting day. How does Kaine respond? His media team had better be smart and well prepared, doing a better job than they've done so far of reminding voters who Allen is as well as who Kaine is. A Republican-controlled Senate under an Obama 2nd term would be a major setback. But why Allen would slip through this time around is puzzling. It could only happen because voters are not paying attention, or forgetful and under-informed.  

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