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Shoot First ("Stand your Ground")...in Virginia?

by: LoriHankyHaas

Thu Mar 22, 2012 at 13:10:00 PM EDT


(Thanks to Lori for sharing her thoughts on this horrible situation, and on the broader problem of these crazy "shoot first"/"stand your ground" laws.   - promoted by lowkell)

The terrible shooting death of Trayvon Martin in Sanford, Florida has understandably caught everyone's attention-and rightfully so. For a teenager to be gunned down while walking home from the convenience store is incomprehensible, but sadly, somewhat predictable in a state like Florida. At the urging of the NRA, legislators in Florida enacted a Castle Doctrine bill in 2005 that included "Shoot First" (aka, "Stand Your Ground") language permitting a person to use deadly force under a much broader set of circumstances. Trayvon Martin's family is now painfully aware of the consequences of this law.

Alarmingly, "Shoot First" laws seemingly allow a person to chase down a target (a young black man perhaps?), engage them in a confrontation (verbal only perhaps?), shoot them dead, and then claim self defense because they somehow felt threatened!   "Shoot First" legislation completely removes the long-standing premise of a duty to retreat in public places.

Of note, it has been reported that the number of "justifiable homicides" has increased at least three-fold in states like Florida that have these new laws, while the majority of people using these laws as a defense in court have been shown to be criminals themselves.

LoriHankyHaas :: Shoot First ("Stand your Ground")...in Virginia?

For the past four years, Castle Doctrine bills have been successfully defeated in Virginia by the state's gun violence prevention community. Rest assured, though, the Castle Doctrine bills will be back in 2013 in Virginia and, as we have learned, after that the next stop on the gun lobby's slippery slope is likely pushing "Shoot First" bills here in Virginia.

For a detailed look at "Shoot First" legislation and its repercussions, please read the excellent blog post, "Arming Zimmerman," by Josh Horwitz, Executive Director of the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence.

It should also come as no surprise that "Shoot First" legislation is being pushed by none other than the NRA and ALEC, to which the NRA made a sizable donation for (bought) an elevated seat at the table. For an excellent post on the legislative ties between ALEC and this type of legislation, please read this post from Media Matters or this post from People for the American Way.

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SCARY!!! (0.00 / 0)
Thanks for the link to the article "Arming Zimmerman."  It's scary -- everyone needs to read it.

Interesting Phrasing........ (0.00 / 0)
"For the past four years, Castle Doctrine bills have been successfully defeated in Virginia by the state's gun violence prevention community. Rest assured, though, the Castle Doctrine bills will be back in 2013 in Virginia and, as we have learned, after that the next stop on the gun lobby's slippery slope is likely pushing "Shoot First" bills here in Virginia."

"Slippery slope" is the term most often used by gun nuts when they rail against ANY gun law. Their twisted rationale says that any restriction is the start of a slippery slope to a total ban on private gun ownership blah, blah, blah. As a retired law enforcement officer I fully support common sense gun laws and the ones currently being pushed in VA by the NRA and ALEC crowd are definitely not common sense.


This guy was a common citizen prowling the streets with a gun (0.00 / 0)
The shooter had no training on how to obey the law while reporting suspicious activity. He was simply making up the rules as he went along.

This is really scary. What if kids are allowed to carry guns to school? With all the bullying that goes on a lot of youngsters could be lost.


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