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Why Several of Us Won't Be Participating in Brian Moran's Conference Call Tomorrow Night

by: lowkell

Wed Nov 30, 2011 at 12:06:10 PM EST


This morning, a number - not sure how many - of Virginia Democratic activists received a letter from DPVA chair Brian Moran. I've posted that on the "flip," and I recommend that you read it. The gist of the letter is that DPVA is supposedly "applying the lessons of the past year to our 2012 campaign effort to build a more aggressive, effective and responsive Democratic movement across the Commonwealth," and wants to tell us all about it on a conference call with Brian Moran "on Thursday, December 1st at 7:30pm."

In addition to the email, many of us also received a short note from DPVA 1st Vice Chair Gaylene Kanoytan, as follows (I left the bad formatting and typos - "insure?" - as is):

Good morning...hope you had a good holiday.
I  want to insure you received this Town Hall Conference call invitation from Chairman Moran. Hope you can join the call.
Thank  You,
Gaylene
Since then, several invited Democrats have contacted me with their responses. One of these people is former Arlington County Democratic Committee chair Peter Rousselot. According to Peter (who asked me to print this with attribution):
lowkell :: Why Several of Us Won't Be Participating in Brian Moran's Conference Call Tomorrow Night
The main reason I am not going to participate on this call is that I consider this a deliberate effort to distract attention from the many, many criticisms by many, many different people about:

---DPVA and the way it is run
---Brian Moran and his leadership of DPVA
---All the other strategic failings of which VA Dem leaders were guilty over the last 3 years

Rather than directly addressing each or all of the petition signers, and engaging in a public and transparent discussion of all the issues raised by the petition and all the posts on BV and NLS, Brian and DPVA want to quickly change the subject by focusing on how to help elect Tim Kaine, pretending either that all these other problems don't exist or that, to the extent they do (something Brian and the DPVA insiders would like to hash out in secret), DPVA will be fixing them in secret and let us know what they decide.

I am a strong supporter of electing Tim Kaine to the U.S. Senate in 2012, but I am not going to let my strong support for Kaine be used by DPVA to try to mask its own problems. DPVA first needs to restore its own credibility by involving grass roots activists in a meaningful and open discussion of all the issues that have been raised before trying to pivot to the critical task of carrying Virginia for Kaine.

I couldn't agree more, which is why my response to Gaylene began with the line, "With all due respect, is this a bad joke or something?" I then echoed much of what Peter said, concluding, "why would I - or anyone else with half a brain - fall for this?"

Another invitee emailed me her response to Gaylene. Let's just say, if you thought Peter's and mine were rough...ha. According to this Virginia Democratic activist - and former Brian Moran for Governor supporter, by the way - she will not be participating in the call for two main reasons. First she cites "the disturbing actions by Dick Saslaw in both redistricting and in the primary here in NoVA for the 31st Senate district...[and the] travesty the redistricting plan was...As for the 31st race, I simply have no desire to work for a party whose entrenched leaders are trying to discourage voter choice and are pouring money into primaries between quality candidates."

Second, she points to "our DPVA chair's day job," that "it is embarrassing and disgusting that the current DPVA chair's day job is to SUE THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION and to actively lobby on behalf of an industry that preys on the poor, on minorities, on military members, and on tax payers."

Even worse, she adds, Brian Moran is "abdicating his responsibilities in favor of actively lobbying against our Democratic administration and against the very people our party purports to defend." She asks, "What could the justification possibly be for selecting such a person as our party chair?" The bottom line: "Both of these items stem from the same sickness at DPVA:  We have an entrenched, small group of crony leaders who don't care about their party but care only about themselves.  This has to change."

Bizarrely, the response to this scathing email from Gaylene Kanoytan was "Thank you for your response, we need you to win in 2012!!!" Seriously? Kanoytan continued, "Can I suggest you have a conversation with the Chairman? He's easy to talk to and need to hear from other people. He was able to clear up some of my concerns. I can set it up for you."

My god, what can you even say to this pablum? As the Democratic activist quoted above wrote, "I really don't see what having a conversation with Brian will achieve, so I will decline your suggestion, with thanks to you for your interest." I couldn't have put it better myself and have nothing more to add. Your thoughts on all this?

P.S. Here's the original email, as I mentioned at the beginning of this (lengthy) post.

Dear Friends,

With the 2011 elections less than a month behind us, next year's races are already ramping up. I want to thank each of you for the outstanding effort you made on behalf of our candidates all across the Commonwealth this year. With your help we elected Democrats to the General Assembly and to local offices all around the Commonwealth.

As we move forward, the Democratic Party of Virginia is already applying the lessons of the past year to our 2012 campaign effort to build a more aggressive, effective and responsive Democratic movement across the Commonwealth.

A major component of that effort is to open a conversation with Democrats like you who are out there everyday fighting to make Virginia more equal, just and prosperous for every person. That's why I hope you will join Tim Kaine for Senate campaign manager Mike Henry and me this Thursday for a conference call on how the party is already working to send Governor Kaine to the U.S. Senate next November and how you be the difference in this importance race.

We may be just a few weeks past the last election, but the Republicans aren't skipping a beat and neither are we.  In 2012 we have the chance to make history. Not only by driving President Obama, Governor Kaine and our congressional candidates to victory, but also by continuing to build on our successes and build the infrastructure that will serve our candidates and grassroots Democrats for years to come.

I hope you can join Mike and me on the call on Thursday, December 1st at 7:30pm. You can reserve your spot on the call by clicking here and filling out the form provided. Once you've done that we will call you at the number you provide with instructions to stay on the line and join the conversation.

I look forward to hearing from you about working together to move our party forward.

Thank you for all that you do,

Brian Moran  

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Great Post (0.00 / 0)
I couldn't agree with you more on this post, and for the reasons you cite, I have given up on the state Democratic party - it's really not inclusive and as Ms. Konoytan's inarticulate words demonstrate, obviously she is not concerned with the issues that are important to the voters.

Sadly she is caught up in the false hubris of being near the semi-powerful (how powerful can any of us Va. Democrats be since we are led by such weak leaders who are only interested in their own ambitions?).


Got The Email: CALL SOMEONE WHO CARES! (0.00 / 0)
I AGREE WITH PETER! They are trying to spin this and lessen the blow coming towards Hampton!

EXACTLY! (4.00 / 1)
Send your stupid email to someone who actually gives a damn.

I'm with you all.

I especially love this line:

I look forward to hearing from you about working together to move our party forward.

REALLY??????????? Since when? My question to him is WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO TO PULL US OUT OF THE DITCH?? What's the plan??


The e-mail response (0.00 / 0)
That e-mail response sounds like an automated message to me. That could mean your e-mail was not even read. At any rate, the response was totally inappropriate and arrogant.

No, it wasn't automated. (0.00 / 0)
Gaylene responded several times, based on our responses to her, to a number of us.

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But yes, she does SOUND automated. (0.00 / 0)
Very strange.

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I hate to say it (0.00 / 0)
But Gaylene needs to stop sending emails and "press releases".  She doesn't seem to use spellcheck on whatever app she uses to write her emails, and spelling is clearly not her best suite, so her emails and releases almost always have some spelling and grammatical errors in them.

We all do it, but then again, we're not the #2 person at DPVA either.  


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Speaking of which... (0.00 / 0)
...should be "her best suit" not "her best suite." :)

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Confused? (0.00 / 0)
The way to change any system is to work within the structure that is there.  I've complained too, but I think everyone needs to be realistic as well.  

Actually, there are multiple ways to change a system. (0.00 / 0)
One is to work within the existing structure. Another is to work outside the existing structure in parallel, perpendicular, diagonal, whatever. Another is to fight to change the existing structure. Another is a hybrid of these approaches. Etc, etc.

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Wasn't Asked (4.00 / 1)
I guess if a person is a member of the Central Committee (me), then HQ figures we will go along with whatever crap comes out of there without ever saying anything. I didn't get an invitation to waste my time on the conference call. Had I received one, I would have echoed some of Peter's concerns.

I expect to work very hard to re-elect President Obama and to elect Tim Kaine. My money will go to those campaigns. My time is far too valuable to waste listening to Brian Moran or Don Mark or whoever else is in on this dumb idea of a call try to justify gross incompetence.


Agreed on the need to focus on 2012 (0.00 / 0)
#1: Reelect President Obama and defeat whatever heinous Republican is that party's crazy nominee.

#2: DEFEAT FELIX MACACAWITZ - for the second freakin' time, grrrrr - and elect Tim Kaine to replace Jim Webb in the U.S. Senate.

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Guess I did not make the A List (0.00 / 0)
inasmuch as I did not receive THE e-mail (despite receving a note from Gaylene that I'd be "hearing from Brian"), and so will not be on the conference call. IMO that is not my loss. Athough preference is to work within the system, Itoo well recall the wonderful conference call with Messina and DPVA a few months ago, in which I did participate, and, if this one turns out anything like the Messina call, it will be an exercise in futility, mere kabuki theatre (if it even rises to that level). It will consist of those pro-forma alibi-ike orations in which everyone tries to tell everyone else how much behind Tim Kaine they are, and Obama, and what can they do to help. Very little to zip genuine cross discussion, and, I suspect, any who attempt to raise their heads will subsequently find their heads rolling for having dared to peek above the general level of inmcompetence.

Do you suppose that this conference call will be considered to fulfill the requirement that DPVA listen to the grassroots; goodbye any chance of speaking up at the meeting, since any reform thoughts will "not be on the agenca?"    


With regard to your last question (0.00 / 0)
"Do you suppose that this conference call will be considered to fulfill the requirement that DPVA listen to the grassroots; goodbye any chance of speaking up at the meeting, since any reform thoughts will "not be on the agenda?"

YES. YES. YES. YES. and did I mention YES?!? :)

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So why not participate and ask blunt questions? (0.00 / 0)
Are we just assuming they have a "bunker mentality" and won't respond to anything? What's the harm in making some people we don't particularly want to protect uncomfortable?

Head in NOVA, Heart in SW

Ok, let's ask another question... (0.00 / 0)
if we want to work inside the party for change, how do we start with the reorganizations coming up?

And why can't anyone make the Roanoke City party have any public meetings?

Head in NOVA, Heart in SW


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Call To Caucus (0.00 / 0)
The Roanoke City committee, just like every other local committee, will be having a caucus to reorganize in either December or January. The caucus is open to any person willing to arrive before the doors are closed, usually at 7 p.m., and willing to sign a pledge to support Democrats in elections at every level. So, that's about as open as any committee meeting gets. Of course, no committee welcomes people of the opposing party.

If you wish to attend a caucus, be sure you know your voting precinct, or if you are like me and live in a county, the magisterial district. That information will be necessary to guarantee you are able to vote.

The Roanoke committee will advertise that caucus in some way. It has to.


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Well last time they didn't (0.00 / 0)
They're good at being secret. They've never had a meeting for the City committee as long as I can remember.

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And before someone dredges up some post to a listserv or DPVA website posting (are new activists constantly perusing that?) (0.00 / 0)
As I've been told, the DP hasn't really tried to be very public, and this goes back at least 5 years.

Head in NOVA, Heart in SW

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Monthly Meetings (0.00 / 0)
I don't live in the city, but I am friends with several of the officers of that committee. The Roanoke City Committee meets monthly. Also, in the early fall they participated with other Roanoke Valley Democratic groups in a gathering at a vineyard in Botetourt County (where I live). That event drew several hundred grassroots Democrats and featured State Sen. John Edwards as the speaker.

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Paba, why do you make up stuff about a city committee where you don't live ? (0.00 / 0)
I assume since you say "Head in NOVA, Heart in SW" that you live in NOVA. As Elaine says, the Roanoke City Dem. committee does in fact hold monthly meetings, just like all other county and city committees do except a couple of months each year (such as my PWCDC) when we don't have meetings that would otherwise conflict with Thanksgiving or Christmas.

If you're at all active with your local committee, you know that the by-laws (as mandated by the State Party Plan) in fact REQUIRE regular meetings that must be announced at least a week in advance of each meeting. Not all county committees meet every month, but they must meet regularly and can't hold "secret" meetings. All committee meetings, as I'm sure you know even if you're not a committee member, are open to the public (not just open to committee members), which of course is one reason their by-laws require meeting announcements at least a week before the scheduled meeting date.

I think I've adequately made the point that what you are saying about a functioning city committee is false, so back to my question: Why make up stuff when you're comments are so easy to refute with the facts ? BTW, my twin brother lives in Christiansburg, attends the Montgomery County Dem. committee meetings, and because his home is only 30 miles from the city of Roanoke he like Elaine is well acquainted with some of the committee members and when/where they meet monthly.

Are those enough facts to convince you to retract your statements about the Roanoke Dem. committee ?

                         T.C.


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Reorganization is on December 6th (0.00 / 0)
If you'd like to join up with the local committee, I suggest you try to attend the meeting. Doors will close at 7:00 PM.

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Roanoke, VA 24017
6:00 PM to 8:00 PM
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Thanks, Issac. That should convince Paba that he's mistaken. (0.00 / 0)
The fact that the YD member of the DPVA Steering Committee has publicly announced the Dec. 6th Reorganization caucus details to the world via the largest blog in Virgina should finally put to rest any claims that the committee isn't doing its job well or doesn't get out the message about their meetings. It would be nice if the Roanoke committee link on the DPVA included a link to their web site; the only list the chair's name, e-mail address and phone number, but no web site info.

I just wish I knew some of the Roanoke City Dems. who aren't current committee members so I could pass the info.to them, but they will probably see the announcement in a local Newspaper (Roanoke Times) if that's where it was advertised.

I'm looking forward to seeing you at the DPVA meetings this weekend, Issac. Thanks again for this excellent new update on the Roanoke committee.

One thing I'd like to ask you to do as a Steering Committee member is to initiate a request that a blog tab be added to the DPVA web site. Most county committee web sites I access frequently (including my own PWCDC web site) have a blog section that generates a lot of interest and interactive discussion that result in many good and innovative ideas.

                    T.C.


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Thanks Tom... (0.00 / 0)
Many of the local party communications for Salem, Roanoke County, and Roanoke are focused on their Yahoogroups listserv, so I'm not 100% sure that the Roanoke City Committee has a current website (though I know they regularly update a Facebook profile).

Glad to be of help though, and I'm looking forward to seeing you this weekend as well.  


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Answer to your question. (0.00 / 0)
"Are we just assuming they have a 'bunker mentality' and won't respond to anything?"

Yes. Also add arrogance, condescension, superiority, contempt,  cluelessness, etc. to the list.

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Not Open to All, Mixed Subjects = FAIL (4.00 / 2)
Paba, Besides the reasons of mine that Lowell has already posted, I also won't be participating in this call because it is not a forum open to all; it mixes up issues relating to organizing to help Tim Kaine with issues relating to DPVA's own structural weaknesses; it does not provide adequate notice to all interested parties, and mass conference calls of this kind are a poor forum in which to have a truly interactive discussion of all of the many organizational shortcomings of the DPVA. What DPVA ought to do is to hold a series of regional meetings around the state, with lots of notice, and no restrictions on which Democratic activists can participate.  

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Amen! (0.00 / 0)
That's been my issue with the party for a long time now.  

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But then how do we have a productive dialogue? (2.75 / 4)
How do we have a constructive dialogue if we refuse to even explore the potential opportunities for conversation that are out there? I am sympathetic to a lot of the criticisms of DPVA particularly around the lack of authority exerted over poor local committees and the lack of a compelling cohesive message. But if we summarily  dismiss the potential opportunities for dialogue, even if we think they may not be all they are touted to be, how does that advance the cause of strengthening the party and making it more responsive to the grassroots/ netroots

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If you think you can have a productive dialogue (4.00 / 1)
with these people, then more power to ya and let us know how it goes! :) Personally, I'm pretty jaded after so many of us have tried really hard over the years to work with DPVA (and others in "the establishment"), to have our concerns seriously listened to (and to get completely blown off, treated with contempt, yada yada), etc. At this point, many of us feel that attempting to communicate productively with DPVA (or Dick Saslaw, for that matter, or many others among the Virginia Dem "powers that be") is like talking to a brick wall.  Last I tried to do that - talk to a brick wall, that is - let alone bang my head against said wall, it wasn't the greatest experience I ever had. Why repeat it? :)

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Agree: Let Us Know (4.00 / 1)
Truthteller, I agree with all of the points Lowell has made in his reply to you. In my original comments that Lowell posted, and in my reply to Paba, I provided my own reasons why I am not going to participate in this particular conference call. Having participated in many other conference calls of this kind, I do not believe this type of forum can provide a truly interactive way in which a large enough number of Virginia Democratic activists can discuss the many different problems that DPVA has. Also, I believe having the call include a presentation by Mike Henry on Kaine for U.S. Senate campaign strategy is a ruse to try to quickly take the focus off all of DPVA's deep-seated problems. If you have been invited to join this call, and you want to check it out, then by all means, give it a try.

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I also received this email (0.00 / 0)
and a note from a Gaylene. My response was one word.

Resign


Robo call (0.00 / 0)
I was signed up.  Just got a robo call saying so.

This is embarasing (1.50 / 2)
and is the kind of crap that makes it difficult to be a Democrat. Seems like one hell of allot of sour grapes from the folks who failed to gain the Chair last year. Yes I have problems with a host of issues that are magnified by 2 straight election losses. My answer will be to continue to build the party at the local and precinct level and stay involved as best I can with DPVA.

Lastly, Gaylene works her ass off for this party and does not need this pettiness revealed to the world instead of directly and privately with her. I sure as hell hope my spelling and grammar are to your satisfaction as my post was not one of hundreds of emails today to be dealt with by our wonderful 1st Vice-Chair.

To all the Republican reading this post, enjoy it as I am sure your excitement of facing a divided Democratic Party has visions of Newt/Mitt and Felix victories dancing in your regressive right wing brains.


Um (2.00 / 4)
I suspect you also claim Brian invented the semi-colon during a drunken rampage through the streets of Winnipeg during a warm summer night oh so many years ago.

I think it's time for your prune juice and Metamucil smoothie


[ Parent ]
Three points. (4.00 / 1)
1. Everyone has the right to state clearly and publicly their opinions of DPVA. And no, there's nothing "embarasing" (sic) about that.

2. Many of us have tried repeatedly over several years to say the same things privately--with no success. Time to see if public pressure, big time, is more effective.

3. We are certainly not going to be silenced because of what some Republicans might read on Blue Virginia. To the contrary, we are going to keep speaking out, precisely because we care about DPVA's effectiveness, and have found that the quiet whispering road is a dead end.

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I am suggesting silencing noone (3.00 / 1)
I am defending a wonderful woman and friend from these anonymous attacks on her.

And which is it, do you care about the DPVA enough to stay engaged and contribute or are you quitting on it as some seem to be suggesting?

Brian won, Peter lost and there will be another election for Chair soon. We need all hands on deck for Obama, Kaine and our Congressional candidates.


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Reprinting Gaylene's emails (4.00 / 1)
is not an "attack," it's exactly what she said, and how people responded to what she said. Also, NONE of the people in this diary are truly "anonymous." There's Peter, me, and one other person, who Gaylene knows since the email was sent to her. Finally, you claim you are not silencing anyone, but you throw out the "we must all unite for Obama/Kaine/etc. so STFU" line pretty readily, don't you?  Well, sorry, it's not going to work. We will not give up this fight, as it's too important to the future of Virginia, Democrats, progressives, etc.  

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Not sure what assuming the worst before the call accomplishes (3.00 / 2)
If there is indeed a bunker mentality and refusal to take the necessary steps or answer the tough questions, then complain, but why the need to preemptively boycott the call and slam the sponsors before we hear what they have to say?  

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Because we shouldn't play into their charade (0.00 / 0)
n/t

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Agree! (4.00 / 1)
Maybe Lowell is right that it is a charade.  Maybe Peter is right.  However, I feel as though an effort to talk, whether you like the forum for the discussion or not, is being made by DPVa.  Honestly, I'm pretty shocked by most of the comments here.  Don't participate if you don't want, but I don't understand the need for the ugliness.

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Because we believe they're using this call (0.00 / 0)
as part of an effort to do the OPPOSITE of what you're saying. We do NOT believe this is an honest attempt at "discussion," we believe it's an attempt to distract people from focusing on DPVA's failings, the petition calling for change (which is when DPVA suddenly started "reaching out", you should note), etc.  Why play into their strategy to sideline us?

Also, what "ugliness?" This isn't a joke, here, the DPVA has now led us to THREE (3) straight years of disastrous losses, with the possibility of more to come (can we say Governor Kookinelli?!?). This is deadly serious, urgent, and not the time to mince words.  

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Lowell, I don't think this is a (0.00 / 0)
joke at all.  I'm quite aware that we've had devastating losses the last three years.  I've worked on campaigns in three of the last four election cycles.  In 2008, I felt the resultant euphoria when we succeeded in electing Barack Obama and Tom Perriello, and the depression when we lost in 2010 and again this year. I believe had the DPVa and the House and Senate Caucuses done their jobs in the most recent election, we would have had very different results.  I don't know Gaylene, but IMHO there have been some pretty hateful remarks posted about her in this thread.

I've read here on BV that only a few elected officials control the DPVa...so why aren't we speaking of Senator Mark Warner, instead of Gaylene?  Is  Brian Moran chair because that is who Senator Warner wanted? Is Tim Kaine "the" candidate for US Senate because that is who Senator Warner wanted?  Does or does not the DPVA follow Senator Warner's lead?


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What are the "hateful remarks?" (0.00 / 0)
n/t

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Actually, looking through here, the only "hateful" (0.00 / 0)
things said were by a supporter of DPVA's and Gaylene's. Other than that, nothing even remotely "hateful" as far as I can tell, although certainly people are critical of DPVA and to an extent of Gaylene's emails and responses.  

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Not looking to make enemies among "Blue Friends" (0.00 / 0)
but as a born fighting Irishman, if I was going to tell you to STFU, I wouldn't need some cryptic code to do it. I would be very direct and do exactly that. I did not and you are crating a false narrative and diversion since you failed to answer my question. Hell, look me up in Hampton on Friday and we can share a cocktail.

The attacks are on the pettiness shown towards her in the comments above. She used insure instead of ensure and a blackberry email, big whoop. If I wanted to descend to that pettiness, her last name is Kanoyton not Konoytan, and by the standard you set, you are teed up for mean-spirited and nasty things post about you by the mostly anonymous commenters.

Gaylene is great and doing a wonderful job.


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I have no problem with Gaylene (0.00 / 0)
Her reply wasn't very professional, but I have no problem with her.

I do have a problem with a bunker mentality in the face of being wiped off the map by apathy.

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I'm with everyone here (3.80 / 5)
I just wrote back to Gaylene and respectfully declined. Not attempting to pile on, not trying to be disrespectful. I really do appreciate that she reached out at all, especially to those who signed the petition. It's more than we can say about almost anyone else at DPVA.

But I will say this:
1. Too little, too late: a secondhand invite to a tele-town-hall is not "hearing from Brian."
2. If I wanted to be "talked at" for an hour, I'd call my grandmother.
3. If I wanted to be further ignored, as I have been already, I'd, again, call my grandmother.

It's not too late to sign the petition. We've got 60 signatures, and maybe we can get 100 before the meeting this weekend.

http://www.change.org/petition...


A couple of thoughts on the last few comments... (0.00 / 0)
1. If Gaylene has in fact "worked her ass off", how about giving us some examples of what she has been working on "behind the scenes" ?  Her 1st Vice Chair for ORGANIZATION position requires that she periodically visit and assist county and city committees with our, well, organizations. I've only missed one PWCDC general membership meeting since she was elected 1st Vice Chair and although I'm not an MD chair and therefore not a voting member of the county Steering Committee I do regularly attend SC meetings. At no time has she ever attended any PWC committee meeting when I was present, and at no time that I'm aware of has she ever "assisted" our local committee.

By contrast, the paid staffer Don Mark, DPVA Political Director, has attended PWCDC meetings at least twice in the past year that I recall, including a very well organized report to the general membership, then invited questions and comments. Don has made it a point to keep in close contact with our committee, and is always available to our county committee chair and the general membership. I've called Don or sent him e-mail messages numerous times, and he has always replied to my messages or returned my calls the same day or the next day.

So, why can't Gaylene be as responsive as Donand handle our questions, complaints and suggestions directly instead of saying "I'll arrange for Brian to meet with you" ? Why has she never attended any of our county committee meetings since she was elected ? I DO have a BIG problem with Gaylene, and it's that she has not done what she promised to do when she gave her speech before she was elected 1st Vice Chair for Organization. If she has been "working her ass off", what has she been working on so hard that prevents her from taking care of the primary ORGANIZATION duties of the job ? Why so secretive about what she is doing "behind the scenes" ?

2. One of the most effective ways I've found to convince voters or the party leadership to vote for our candidate or make better party decisions is face-to-face conversations. And for me at least, I've found that a casual,informal setting is more effective than trying to interject questions or comments into a structured meeting situation, which is why I will show up at the DPVA meeting location several hours before the formal meetings convene so I can get acquainted/re-acquainted with the DPVA leadership in a more friendly (social) environment.

                        T.C.  


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Gaylene Kanoyton, for instance (who was regularly named), is a prime example of who we Democrats are and what makes those who volunteer so special. The 1st Vice Chair is a volunteer position, which means the time she dedicates to us, the work she puts in and the travel she does on behalf of the DPVA is all non-paid. In fact, she has to spend money to serve in her role. When local committees invite her to speak, she has to pay for that travel out of her own pocket. She pays to attend the quarterly DNC/ASDC national meetings where she's able to learn about best practices that are working for other states. And because of her involvement in these meetings, she was able to get Democrats in other states to help phone bank for our candidates here in the Commonwealth. Gaylene was elected the ASDC Vice President for the Southern Region. She has a national leadership role that gives Virginia additional visibility.

It was Gaylene who campaigned to Party leaders for a Grassroots Summit that attracted 500 people, most of whom were not DPVA members. She's initiated regional trainings with Local Committees & OFA,  bi weekly-training webinars and is in on a monthly local chairs call with detailed reports on things happening on the ground- both publicly and behind the scenes. And.... she does all of this as a single mother trying to raise a son who will be an active and contributing member of our society (and a Democrat, of course!).

And there are lots of volunteers like Gaylene throughout Virginia. Some of them have even commented on this blog. Some of them have been among the DPVA's loudest critics. My point is, we actually hear your criticism and take it seriously- even when it's harsh. That's fair. Let's just please all recognize that folks are out there working hard for us and we don't always know all that's going on.

So, when we criticize others who we all agree, ultimately, have similar goals as us (to elect Democrats), let's also take a moment to look at ourselves and ask.... What am I doing for the cause?


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I want to emphasize the VA Summit... (0.00 / 0)
From Charles quote above...

It was Gaylene who campaigned to Party leaders for a Grassroots Summit that attracted 500 people, most of whom were not DPVA members.

This is absolutely true. Gaylene was a driving force behind the VA Summit and maintained consistent pressure to see that the event came together. She sacrificed a great deal of personal time and was essential in getting several speakers there. I was fortunate enough to attend the event on the campus of Virginia Commonwealth University, and to be contacted by a number of young activists before, during, and after the event... several of whom were brand new to the party. Most are now plugged into their local Young Democrat chapters and helping the party.



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In fairness, since I've been critical of Gaylene. (0.00 / 0)
I want to commend her for that leadership. Nice job!

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To be clear, the comments aren't disturbing because they are critical of the DPVA and its leaders, but because they simply stop there at the criticism (which in some cases is unfair) and seem, therefore, pretty futile.

We Democrats pride ourselves on having a big tent and being the political home of people with many differing opinions on countless different issues. That's actually good, in my opinion. We may not all agree on a set strategy, but we tend to agree on the goal.

What disturbed me most about the comments, though, were the attacks (direct or implied) on the hundreds of Virginians who work in a volunteer capacity for the DPVA.

Again, I have problems with DPVA. Losing certainly will magnify any difficulties we have. Seems you have 2 choices, quit or work harder. I choose the latter with Brian and Gaylene who defeated Peter and Susan in their elections. If we made a mistake, we can correct it at the next election.

Look me up this weekend if in town and in the Irish way, share a pint!


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I might have listened to their call just out of curiosity, but I wasn't invited.  Oh well, so much for outreach.

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