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Where Will We Find the Next Jim Webb?

by: kindler

Sat Nov 12, 2011 at 12:40:44 PM EST


Jim Webb's election as US Senator in 2006 held great promise for the future of Democrats in Virginia and nationwide.  He was and is a unique kind of Democrat, offering the hope of bringing a very different constituency into the party - the Scots-Irish, more rural and pro-military but profoundly populist folks who are too poorly served by their steadfast support of the Republican agenda of enriching America's millionaires.

This past week's election results, leaving Republicans in total control of state government, made crystal clear that the forces of reaction have roared back to crush this revolution - for now.  Democratic hopes of expanding our base in Virginia have largely stopped dead at the borders of Fairfax County, as we have failed to appeal to the kind of Virginians, from the exurbs to the small towns, who look and in some ways think like Jim Webb.

But rather than sulking, we need to figure out how the revolution that Jim Webb promised got stopped in its tracks, and how we revive it - with new Jim Webbs, wherever we can find them.  

It is important to remember what an unlikely Democratic candidate Webb made in 2006.  Webb is an archetypal symbol of Marine machismo, who blazed a trail from his famed boxing match with Oliver North at Annapolis to his uncommon courage in Vietnam, where he earned the Navy Cross, Silver Star, two Bronze Stars, and two Purple Hearts.  He made his mark as a Reagan administration official, bringing the Marines back from a low point and dramatically resigning as Navy Secretary when he disagreed with the president's policies.  

kindler :: Where Will We Find the Next Jim Webb?
Webb had been a Republican for what may be called cultural reasons, especially his love of the military, but fell away in disgust at how George W. Bush misused the military with the appalling, destructive Iraq War.  He was also attracted to the Democrats because of his economic populism, and because, as a highly independent thinker, he seemed repelled by the born-again intolerance of Republicans for anyone who is different.  

Indeed, one of the primary challenges with attracting the Scots-Irish constituency to the Democrats - about which Webb wrote brilliantly in his book, Born Fighting - is how to appeal and respond to their reflexive economic populism while discouraging their traditional Achilles' heel, which is racism.  Indeed, we can't forget that the once Southern-based Democratic party that had these folks as a core constituency was fundamentally a racist party - and this constituency abandoned the Democrats largely in protest against the Civil Rights movement.  President Andrew Jackson, whom Webb holds up as a model as the first great populist Scots-Irish president, famously mixed his disdain for elites (in killing the country's Second National Bank) with great cruelty for the country's Indian population (forcing their relocation to the West through the "Trail of Tears").

And race certainly forms at least part of the undertone of the Tea Party movement that has brought the same constituency firmly back to the GOP bosom in reaction against a black president consistently portrayed as a kind of elitist, socialist alien.

So where did the Webb revolution go off the tracks and how do we get back to expanding the Democratic base to appeal to the poor rural folks whose interests are best supported by a party that works for them rather than for Wall Street?  One key to understanding this constituency - which is the main point of Born Fighting - is to see them not as "rednecks" but as a unique ethnic group with its own cultural sensitivities.  We may not like or agree with all of these cultural proclivities, nor do we need to - but we just need to show them some respect.  

We need a Democratic big tent that can include everyone from Muslims in Northern Virginia to poor rural whites in Southwest, by appealing to universal principles and policies of fairness, justice and sustainability.  Note that Jim Webb has not simply been a Blue Dog Democrat who's gone along with the pro-corporate agenda of the Republicans under the cover of being "centrist".  To the contrary, his appeal has been as an economic populist and foreign policy realist who understands and respects the Scots-Irish stock from whence he came.  

What we need, then, are not conservative Democrats who will bash President Obama and progressive values, but populist Democrats who will fight even harder for progressive values in ways that appeal to the truly downtrodden in small towns across the Commonwealth and the country.  We need Jim Webbs who understand and show respect for small town culture while also making people understand that their interests are not represented by the party of the top 1%.

In this regard, popular sympathy for the Occupy Wall Street movement is a positive sign.  So is the continuing stream of veterans running for office as Democrats.  (I was delighted to hear the other day that Richard Carmona, a Latino Vietnam vet who served uncomfortably as Bush's Surgeon General, and a great guy, is now running for the US Senate in Arizona - as a Democrat!)

Rather than shamelessly failing to even try to recruit candidates in non-traditional Democratic areas, we need to expand our outreach to these areas as Howard Dean did in his "50-state strategy".  We need to learn to talk with constituencies who haven't trusted us in the past - how else can we gain their trust?  And we need to find new Jim Webbs to refresh our candidate base, to lead new followers into the party.  They are out there - we just need to get out of our comfort zone, and theirs, to break new ground and create a new Democratic majority.

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Another Jim Webb?? (4.00 / 1)
You mean someone who will vote with the Blue Dogs?  And who will bail out when we need him?

How about another LBJ?


I haven't always been happy with him either (0.00 / 0)
But it's overly simplistic to just dismiss him as a Blue Dog.  Where else would you find a Southern Senator willing to stick his neck out on an issue like prison reform?  And the fact is that he has supported the Obama administration on almost all the big votes.

Meanwhile, I haven't seen too many LBJs hanging around in a while, have you?  I watched a whole generation of relatively progressive Southern governors disappear in the 70s and 80s, from Jimmy Carter to Terry Sanford to Buddy Roemer (before he went over to the dark side).

We need a formula to bring progressive leadership back to the South, especially for a border state like Virginia. The leaders we get may not be everything you and I desire, but we need to find ones with the right mix of principle and electability -- and for that, Jim Webb is a model.  

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You (0.00 / 0)
won't get it looking for a Webb replacement. We need a progressive, not a regressive.

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The DLC (0.00 / 0)
was formed to do exactly that, and it was successful in the 80s and 90s.  Bill Clinton, Chuck Robb, Sam Nunn, John Breaux, Dick Gephardt.  They were pretty successful in getting Dems elected in the South.

The issue now is, Clinton and team still had the overhang of rural whites voting Democratic by default due to 120 years of doing so. That's long gone now, so I don't know how well DLC-type candidates would do in rural areas.  I do think they would do well in surburbia, however.  Mark Warner is clearly in that mold, Webb sort of is.  

But remember, the DLC was constantly under attack from the progressive wing of the Democratic party for not being liberal enough.  We see that almost every day on this blog and others.  


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No, I'm not talking about sticking to the mushy middle... (0.00 / 0)
...I'm talking about progresive populism with small town appeal -- that's what we need to win elections without losing our soul.

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Has it worked since the 1930s? (0.00 / 0)
I don't think that most rural folks are into the progressive movement.  Parts of it, perhaps, but I think it would turn off a lot of rural voters who would see it as pandering and nothing else.  Talk about jobs, then vote to shut down a power plant or coal mine.  That kind of thing.

I think we have to accept the fact that progressive ideals, in their entirety, do not appeal to most rural voters.  The "mushy middle" tends to, since it moderates the bulk of right-wing standard social stuff (god, guns, gays and abortion).  I think the progressive/liberal view on economics and non-social issues can be a winner anywhere, and will argue their merits to anyone living anywhere in the United States.  Our social platform, that's where it's a tough sell, and I think it's very difficult to sell the economic and non-social pieces without some buy-in to the social platform.  

I think moving forward, the gay issue is going to go away substantially.  The movement in gay rights over the last 20 years has actually been pretty fast, much faster than past civil rights movements.  

The abortion issue is really a religious issue and it will remain a long time, along with all of the other religious baggage.  Guns, possibly a little work can be done there.


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I suggest you read today's WaPo story... (4.00 / 1)
...on whether regulations actually "kill jobs" before repeating Republican talking ponts like "Talk about jobs, then vote to shut down a power plant or coal mine."

I totally agree with the commenter who said that economic development is a winning message in rural VA, but I don't think the Repub approach of devlopment through mountaintop removal, toxic waste dumps, prisons and uranium mines is all that helpful to the communities they devastate.  

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Why are you spewing out Republican talking points (0.00 / 0)
to mischaracterize and slander progressivism?  The fact is, rural people have a tremendous amount to gain - and HAVE gained throughout American history - from progressive economics, from Teddy Roosevelt to FDR to Harry Truman to LBJ and beyond. In contrast, rural people have absolutely NOTHING to gain - and have gained nothing throughout American history from the poisonous snake oil of supply side, trickle down, let-the-rich-run-wild, let-Wall-Street-run-amok policies that Republicans advocate. So why aren't rural voters gung ho about liberals, progressives, etc?  Because Republicans are masters of tapping into peoples' darkest impulses, appealing to their fears and prejudices, dividing one group against another, playing up the (slim) chances that they too can be rich, etc., etc. And they have a gazillion bucks to spend doing the slandering, which they've relentlessly done - with very little pushback from the "blue team" - for decades now. The question is, when are progressives and Democrats going to stop being timid about advocating for what they believe (or purport to believe), which also happens to be economically and morally the right thing to believe? And when are Democrats going to stop ignoring/dissing/sabotaging the core of their identity, which is progressivism, just as Republicans would be crazy to ignore/dis/sabotage the beating heart of their party -- conservatism?!?

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As I clearly said (0.00 / 0)
on economic and non-social issues, we definitely have a winning strategy.  It may need to me delivered differently, but the overall ideas are sound.

On the social front, rural voters are not on the same page as progressives.  Sorry, that's a fact.  Ask Dems from Appalachia or the Valley what they think on gun control, immigration, gay marriage, the religious viewpoints of many progressives, etc.  You won't like the answers very much.  I disagree with their viewpoints, but I acknowledge that they have them and to them, they are solid and rational views and beliefs.  

Look at it this way.  We can present the science of fossil fuels and how the pain to start switching to non-fossil fuels to power society now will be less than doing it 20 years down the road, when real shortages of fossil fuels will really start to be felt.  We can discuss the inevitable demographic changes that are occurring and will continue to occur, and the need to accept the facts, embrace it or at least learn to live with it, and make sure that everyone adapts and prospers.  But, in the short term, it's about the same as telling a smoker that if they don't stop immediately, they're going to get lung cancer one day.  Most smokers don't quit cold turkey, and rural voters who have been convinced/brainwashed by decades of Republican bullshit aren't going to stop voting Republican overnight.  

So, to restate, we can start to pound away on economic and non-social issues.  How people without health insurance shouldn't be against a plan to provide them insurance just because the government is legislating it.  That's a real good place to start.  But we have to acknowledge the differences on the social side, and account for those differences.


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"and account for those differences" (0.00 / 0)
Sorry, no dice. The survival of our species, millions of other species, life on this planet itself is at stake. According to a just-released analysis by the the International Agency Agency, we have perhaps 5 years to fundamentally change course on energy or "it will become impossible to hold global warming to safe levels, and the last chance of combating dangerous climate change will be 'lost for ever'." Again, THERE IS NO TIME TO WAIT ON THIS. End of story.

Also, I'd point out, post-election polling in 2010 found essentially ZERO evidence that voting for cap-and-trade was correlated with adverse election results. See graph below. To the contrary, polls have shown for years that Americans want to take action on environmental issues, including climate change, and to switch to clean, renewable energy. This is a WINNING issue, except perhaps in a few coal-intensive regions, across America; why would Democrats give that up, and why wouldn't Republicans seize it (other than that they're largely in the pocket of fossil fuel interests)?



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You are preaching to the choir (0.00 / 0)
I know we need to get the ball rolling on a carbon-free energy future.  I also realize that gasoline and coal and natural gas are going to remain the dominant forms of energy production for quite some time.  I also realize that, if you live downstate where the unemployment rate is much higher and where the economy has trailed behind for several decades, that global warming and ecological issues do not crack the top 5 and most likely top 10 issues of concern  It's jobs and the economy, and we need to make a push to get the debate on education, financial system reform and health care on the top of the list as well.  Those are all winning plans that don't require a lot of in-depth science to explain.  

We need to be able to explain that financial system reform is really about ensuring that a bank doesn't make bad loans, sells the bad loans to everyone, buys bad loans from other banks, then screams for the government when the loans go sour.  That health care should be available and affordable to anyone that needs it, and that basic medical issues that come up in everyone's life should not lead to financial ruin.  That if you don't invest in education at all levels today, your kids will be worse off in the future than you are today.  

Explaining the geo-political issues of carbon fuels, that can make some sense.  Too bad the "drill baby drill" crowd got there first, but they did.  But when times are tough, bunker mentality sets in.  You see it everywhere.  "Don't knock the coal company/oil company/telephone company/whatever, they're the only ones hiring".  Shortsighted?  Yes.  But, it's a fact.  If we don't accept the fact that there are differences in opinion, then very little of the overall message will be heard.


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So, there goes the planet.... (0.00 / 0)
...because of propagandized voters in a few coal-producing regions of one country (ours)? Brilliant!

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Bottom line: we need leadership and courage (0.00 / 0)
from our politicians, not denial, ducking, and cowardice.

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No Lowell (0.00 / 0)
You are missing my point entirely, and my mistake for bringing up clean energy and ecology.  Instead, think of it from a guns perspective.  In rural areas, a lot of households have guns.  Not that everyone hunts, but probably everyone knows someone who does, or collects guns, or believes in having them for protection.  Gun control - even sensible gun control for handguns and automatic weapons - is not popular in rural areas.  At all.  So, one play a smart Dem or ten could make is this:

"We believe the 2nd Amendment does apply to individual citizens.  We believe in the right of non-felons to own firearms.  We also believe that there are many types of firearms that are simply too dangerous for your average hunter or home gun owner to have.  Machine guns, heavy caliber rifles, assault weapons, etc.  Some sensible limits on the types of firearms available for sale is necessary".

Boom, you just said we're not anti-gun, just anti-stupid, since no one in their right mind needs a .50 caliber rifle, a MAC-10 or a 30-shot clip for a 9mm handgun.  If that message got out, you would find a surprising number of rural voters who are receptive to that rational and logical argument.

Instead, we allow the NRA to equate a .22 rifle that a 15 year old would hunt rabbits with to a machine gun, when the only similarity at all between those products is that they each shoot bullets.  


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Yes, I agree that Dems should look at how (0.00 / 0)
they are communicating. For instance, I've read (and recommend) "Foxes in the Henhouse" by Steve Jarding and Mudcat Saunders. The problem is, Republicans are just MUCH better at this stuff, and better funded, and more relentless, and more willing to lie out their a***es, than we are.

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All I can say to that is (0.00 / 0)
Democrats:  it's going to be trench warfare.  If you don't have the stomach for it, take some Pepto-Bismol and get in the game.  Get mean, get vocal, get rowdy, get antagonistic.  If Republicans lie, call bullshit and slam back.

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Finding a new Jim Webb (4.00 / 1)
Before we start looking for "another Jim Webb", maybe it would be appropriate to review his accomplishments and assess whether we want another in his mold.  I'm not knocking Jim Webb, but after the second GI Bill, he seemed to disapppear. Maybe I'm wrong; I'd be delighted if someone showed me that I'm wrong.  Whatever he did, it was far from the "Born Fighting" aggressiveness that I expected.  Where was the fierce Scotch-Irish warrior chieftain during the last three years?  Also, wouldn't it be fair to say that one of the responsibilities of leadership is trying to develop the next generation of leadership?  Who is Jim Webb saying is the next guy to pick up the torch?

 


Expanding the base (2.00 / 2)
When you make an effort to reach out to the Virginia rural white voters and expand our base how do you get around the inherent racism that has been so much a part of that culture.  Beats me so far.

This is awfuly prejudiced. Shame. (0.00 / 0)
Could you imagine if we were talking about outreach into black communities and stated talking about the "laziness" or "anger" or "violence" that has been so much a part of the culture.

Sweeping, incorrect stereotypes of anyone have no place in a supposedly "progressive" party. I know it's still cool among a lot of "progressives" to redneck-bash or talk about how rural areas of Appalachia are a bunch of dumb, racist hicks, but when you get down to it, it is a prejudice. No one party or region has the market cornered on prejudice, either.

There should be no place for that here.

Head in NOVA, Heart in SW


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It's a valid point (0.00 / 0)
Quzzical isn't saying that every rural white is a member of the KKK.  But, you have to acknowledge the cultural differences at play.  For example, regardless of race, if a Dem candidate starts talking about religion to Dems in NoVA, it's going to turn a lot of NoVA Dems off.  Not that every Dem here is an atheist, but discussing religion just isn't done in these circles.

Racism may not have been the best description, but prejudice would be.  There is a much bigger cultural divide between a rural Dem and a Fairfax Dem than between a rural Republican and a Fairfax Republican.  Race is part of it, as is religion, support for gays and lesbians, abortion, a lot of issues.  Rural Dems have a lot of crossover with Republican opinions on those matters.  Arlington Dems, very little.  I think if you polled a sample of Fairfax or Arlington Dems, they would want heavy gun control if not an outright ban on most guns.  They would say that religion has zero place in government and very little if any place in politics.  Those positions would not fly for a minute in the rural areas.


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Southern racism is a central, unavoidable part of US history (0.00 / 0)
That of course is not to say that other regions are exempt from prejudice -- far from it.  I grew up in Chicago, where racism and segregation were enormous issues -- and where MLK and his followers said they received their nastiest reception.  

But from the era of slavery to that of massive resistance to the Republicans' Southern strategy -- race has simply been front and center.  Of course things are a whole lot better than they used to be, but I hate to say, it's still a factor one way or another.

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Isn't Jim Webb one of a kind? (0.00 / 0)
I don't know that setting Jim Webb up as a model is going to be helpful.  He's a guy that was a legitimate decorated war hero, an accomplished novelist, a lawyer, and a former Secretary of the Navy in a Republican administration.  He's one of a kind.

Of course I realize that Tim Kaine is going to be running for Webb's seat.  That said, it would be hard to find candidates for lesser offices that would match up to Webb's resume.

Also, as I said before, I'm not even sure that it is a good idea to look for a kind of celebrity candidate who is a Democratic party outsider.  Webb won his election, but five years later, the Democratic party in Virginia seems to be in a shambles.  Can you draw a line between those dots?  


I'd say he mostly is "one of a kind." (4.00 / 1)
For better AND for worse. :)  Also, I'd point out that we didn't really "find" Webb so much as he announced publicly that he was interested in running for Senate from Virginia as a Democrat. What we did was to organize a movement to encourage Webb to run, and to help him once he decided to throw his hat in the ring. Can this be replicated? I strongly doubt it. Instead, what we all need to do is stop looking for a savior or quick fix, and instead roll up our sleeves and get down to work, starting with helping Obama and Kaine (and Dem congressional candidates) win Virginia in 2012. As for DPVA, perhaps the answer is for hundreds of reform-minded grassroots progressives to join the party at a local and statewide level and to reform it from within?

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Agreed (0.00 / 0)
The local Democratic committees will be reorganizing this winter (mine at the December meeting, some early in January). Reform starts right there. So, determine when that organizational caucus is being held. Go to it, preferably with a like-minded friend or two (or twenty), and start making reform happen. In many local committees, there aren't people to fill all the member and leadership slots, but that may not be so true in NoVa. In any case, put your actions where your mouth has been.

Also remember that the local committee picks the people to represent it on the congressional district committee and those people automatically become part of the DPVA Central Committee. If reformers can get a majority on the congressional district committee, they can elect the chair of that group who automatically is a member of the DPVA Steering Committee. The 11-member Steering Committee has far more power than the Central Committee.

Second, on the local level we should start to find candidates NOW for 2013, vowing never again to allow the GOP to have an empty playing field to run on. The earlier a candidate is identified, the greater the chance that candidate can learn the essentials necessary for a successful campaign and begin to amass campaign funds.


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Absolutely (0.00 / 0)
And I think Fairfax County represents a nice model for what you're talking about, as a fair percentage of current FCDC officers -- including the new Executive Director, Frank Anderson -- came from the Brigades and other grassroots movements.  

While that reform process is far from over, is it just a coincidence that Fairfax won almost all of its races, up and down the ticket, last week?

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No Coincidence (0.00 / 0)
Just goes to show the difference between people with a passion for their politics and commitment to action and people who simply try to protect their "turf" and do the same old, same old. Can we clone that?  

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There's also the issue of expectations (0.00 / 0)
It's fun and exciting to work on a campaign.  It's intense, and it doesn't last more than a year (at the very most.)  There are all of the rushes that come from being in that world.

But serving on a committee is actually pretty boring.  It's a commitment of 2 years, and preferably should be more.  Your first two years, you're learning about the committee's quirks and they are learning about yours.  A perfect fit for your skills and the committee's needs isn't always as easy as it looks to outsiders.

Often the most intense volunteers don't want to stick around.  And after all, there is always another campaign.....

But we need both.  Deciding who gets committee money is a big deal.  Deciding on how information is collected and used is a big deal.  If you want some say on who might be running, or putting forth someone to run, it helps to be on a committee.  

And as someone who has lived in four different locations in VA, from very liberal to very conservative, I absolutely believe that most committees welcome new blood.  But they've seen people come and go, and you'll have to prove yourself to them, just as its fair to ask that committee to prove itself to you.


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This is what's wrong (0.00 / 0)
"...you'll have to prove yourself to them..."

Prove yourself?  This is why I only volunteer directly. I don't have to prove anything let alone to some committee of wannbes who spend time flapping lips while republican seats go unchallenged and unopposed. This last election clearly showed there is no coherent leadership and to "prove oneself" to ineffectual self-important people IS what's wrong with the Virginia Democratic Party.

Gretchen, do what I did, less committee, more knocking on doors. It ain't glamorous, but it worked


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Well, it's naive (0.00 / 0)
to think that you can waltz into a group of people who have been doing things (perhaps well, perhaps not) and think that they are going to do what you want.  It's no different from any other position of responsibility.  So I disagree that it's wrong for those who are already on the front lines to size you up.  After all, as I said, people come in with bright ideas all of the time and don't stay more than a few meetings and then disappear.

And like you, I did (and do) the door knocking, the direct campaigning and all of that.  But if you want to complain about the infrastructure (and we do)  then I don't think it's unreasonable to take some responsibility for it.  Join your committee, and stick around.  Believe me, it works.


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This is so far from practice it is not even funny. (0.00 / 0)
Also remember that the local committee picks the people to represent it on the congressional district committee and those people automatically become part of the DPVA Central Committee. If reformers can get a majority on the congressional district committee, they can elect the chair of that group who automatically is a member of the DPVA Steering Committee. The 11-member Steering Committee has far more power than the Central Committee.

The CD are the worst for stagnation - "favored" members...This is where the DPVA term limits - bylaws need to take place.  People get on these committees and stay for life!


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Abandon the DPVA completely and start over (0.00 / 0)
You cannot effect change within a rotten system to begin with. I pounded the pavement for my delegate and state senator and gave them my time and money. But I will have NOTHING to do with that criminal outfit. Change happens when people recognize that the very institutions that purport to represent them in fact do not.

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Congressional/state central is elected (0.00 / 0)
The vast majority of members of DPVA are elected.  Every four years, to be exact.  The next election is in 2013, so get cracking on your list of candidates for whatever congressional district you're in.

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To be clear... (0.00 / 0)
...my point is not that Jim Webb has been the perfect Senator or that he is clonable.  What I'm getting to is the need to find candidates who can win beyond NoVa and VA's other Democratic enclaves.  Webb has a cultural grounding and understanding of small town, Scots-Irish America.  We need to figure out a much better way of appealing to those communities -- not by trying to copy Republicans but through down home economic populism.

We need to respect the culture of these areas without accepting the worst of that culture, e.g., racism.  I'm not saying any of this is easy, but the absolute most unacceptable answer is the DPVA's refusal to even try to recruit candidates through half of the state.  That'll keep us locked up in NOVA forever, and unable to ever turn Virginia blue.  

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I think part of the problem... (0.00 / 0)
Intentional or not in your last comment, is that you assigned racism as being a part of large part of rural culture there. I'm not saying it doesn't exist in parts of rural Virginia, but your statement implied that while racism is a part of rural culture, it isn't a factor in suburban or urban areas.

Your statement explicitly says that "rural" areas have a worst aspect (racism). The implication (though unstated) is that urban areas don't share the same flaw and that racism isn't a part of urban culture.

Being from a rural part of the state, I would view as a bit disrespectful to imply that one culture is inherently racially biased. Racism exists throughout the country, across geographic and demographic lines. To imply otherwise... sounds a lot like talking down to rural voters.


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I think the question needs to be how we can make inroads in more rural areas (0.00 / 0)
Tieing success to individuals is a bit problematic. Sometimes they are just lighting in a bottle. What you have to do is build an active base that serves as a sort of farm team, or strong recruitment system, for any given region. That's going to have to vary by regions. That's just the way it is. Rural people think the urban Dems look down on them, and in many ways they are very right. Urban Dems think rural people are distracted by culture issues, and in many ways they are right. Neither is productive.

I wish I had some idea how to build a big tent base back up without pissing off one side or the other. I guess maybe we really are becoming more fractured. Still, the Dems have a chance to recapture the areas they made inroads into in 2006-08, while I think the GOP is so far gone into extremism that they probably won't return to most urban areas any time soon.

Head in NOVA, Heart in SW


From a purely messaging standpoint... (0.00 / 0)
There are some common themes which resonate...

Senator Puckett's television ads focused very narrowly on support for coal miners and workers, economic development, and education... and how his opponent's views were strongly anti-worker (particularly Adam Light's statements about Black Lung benefits, Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid).

Senator John Edwards message was tailored to veterans, economic development, and education funding.

The common elements of the Democratic platform (which Democrats in VA from rural and urban areas support) are investment in education and a hands-on approach to economic development. There's a reason why Mark Warner's message of "One Virginia" resonated with rural voters... and a great deal of that had to do with the simple fact that educational opportunity is the great equalizer in VA.


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