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Chap 2013?

by: lowkell

Tue Aug 10, 2010 at 11:12:01 AM EDT



Over at NLS, Ben's touting Chap Petersen as the possible way - the only way? - to stop Ken Kook-inelli from becoming governor of Virginia in 2013. Personally, I like Chap a lot, think he's very strong on environmental and economic "fairness" issues, and believe he'll make a great governor some day, but I also think it's way too early to be speculating much about 2013. For one thing, we have no idea if Kookinelli will run for Governor, for reelection as AG, or whether he'll be sharing a cell with Rod Blagojevich by then. Heh.  Also, we have no idea what the political climate will be in 2013, how the Bolling-Kookinelli rivalry will play out (although I presume Cooch would crush Bolling in a Republican primary or convention), to what extent Terry McAuliffe will promote his own candidacy and even lock down the governor's nomination, whether Tim Kaine will come back to run for governor again, etc., etc. A million unknowns, in other words.  

One thing I know for sure is that I don't want to see the 2009 experience repeat itself, because that was a nightmare. First and foremost, I worry that Chap! vs. T-Mac could turn into a bloodbath, allowing Rural Conservadem Creigh Deeds Part Deux (aka, Ward Armstrong) to sneak in as the two "urban crescent" Dem's destroy each other. No thanks.

Having said that, what Democrats need to do is start laying the groundwork for 2013 now. We need to be organizing, building our party, developing our candidates, defining what we stand for, speaking out against the craziness of Cooch et al, etc.  If we do that, and if Cooch turns out to be as divisive and extreme as he's been the first 7 months, then Democrats have a great chance of winning back the Virginia governor's mansion in 2013. Which means we'll need the strongest candidate, someone who can appeal both in the "urban crescent" as well as not get wiped out in the "red" parts of Virginia. Could someone with the profile of Chap Petersen do that?  Seems like it to me, especially after he annihilated the (seemingly) formidable Jeannemarie Devolites Davis in 2007. Anyway, now back to regularly scheduled programming. :)

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Chap 2013? | 17 comments
not that environmentally friendly (0.00 / 0)
Let's remember that Chap voted for offshore drilling royalties, and the day that Obama opened our coastlines he applauded the administration's decision and if there is oil off the coast Virginia should get it and get paid for it.

We could also mention his exemption of Northern Virginia from a Dirty Air Act type of bill in the 2010 session.  The bill allows power plants to get credit for reducing pollutants by purchasing credits from outside the region.  Senator Petersen made sure that Northern Virginia received a carve-out to this law. While that's good for Northern Virginia's air quality it also ensured that the bill would sail through the Senate and lead to dirtier air in the rest of the state.


Yeah, I don't agree with (4.00 / 1)
Chap on this offshore oil drilling. Of course, I don't agree with Jim Webb, Mark Warner, Barack Obama, or a gazillion other Dem's on this issue either. On the other hand, Chap did a great job debunking the myth of offshore oil drilling royalties.  He also introduced the superb Clean Energy Future Act, which would "re-direct Virginia's energy policies towards a sustainable future, setting long term goals for investment in energy efficiency and renewable energy, as well as special incentives for in-state generation and manufacturing. As GreenMiles wrote at the time, "Chap's plan would represent not only huge environmental progress, but take the first steps towards preparing Virginia's economy for our low carbon future."

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Is offshore drilling make-or-break for you? (0.00 / 0)
If so, you might want to stop volunteering for another Virginia Democrat (a good one at that) who "applauded the administration's decision" to open up offshore drilling near Virginia:

http://www2.wsls.com/sls/news/...

"Perfect" environmentalists among the ranks of VA Democratic politicians are 1/100 (at the most).

I agree that offshore drilling is one of the most serious environmental issues facing Virginia - which is why you and I work to help those who oppose it, and convince those who support it to see the error in their ways.

As for Chap - I've spoken to him about the Bay, capping greenhouse gases, a mandatory RES - he's a true believer.  I'm not ready to support him for anything statewide yet, but as an environmentalist myself, he passes the first and most important test in my book.


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That's exactly why (0.00 / 0)
I'm not a single-issue candidate.  To the extent that protecting the environment is absolutely crucial to me, the most important issues are: 1) supporting strong efforts to deal with global warming; 2) pushing hard for a clean energy and energy efficiency revolution; 3) protecting the Chesapeake Bay and other natural resources from harm; 4) working for a healthy environment in every other way.  Obviously, I'm against offshore oil drilling, particularly after the Gulf disaster, but would I rule out a candidate on that one issue alone, if he or she was excellent on everything else? No.

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My comment (0.00 / 0)
Was addressed to whom I imagine is JR - sorry if you took it as a reply to you Lowell.  Or maybe you were replying in agreement with me...

Comment threads can be tricky things...


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I was just agreeing with you. (0.00 / 0)
Thanks. :)

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I've never... (0.00 / 0)
been a one issue supporter.  I reference my comment on the McEachin vs. other Dem leaders comment below.  

As for throwing the Perriello statement on drilling out there - the guy has stood up for every vote he's put in Congress. I respect that in a huge way.  Even when I disagree with Perriello I know where he stands.  Can't say the same thing for many of these other candidates or elected officials.


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McEachin Wins (0.00 / 0)
Lets imagine for a moment the primary candidates that most folks on this blog talk about.  T-Mac, Armstrong, Chap and McEachin. You dont have to worry about Armstrong stealing that one.  D-Mac would be the nominee.

McEachin already lost statewide (0.00 / 0)
and his appeal to moderates is questionable at best.  He's pretty liberal, so not the best choice for top of the ticket.

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I'm thinking McEachin runs for AG (0.00 / 0)
but we'll see.

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Ah, another problem with so many of these others (0.00 / 0)
Here's another tension with Chap and the rest of the Dems often mentioned.  They don't do much to stand up against the AG and Governor.  Time and again, Sen. McEachin is the only voice of reason among our Democratic leaders.  

McEachin speaks out about the insanity in Richmond.  Doesn't matter if it is health care, Chesapeake Bay, global warming, or anti-discrimination.  You name it and McEachin comes out in defense of progressive values.

Meanwhile, these other folks sit on the sidelines because they want to protect themselves if they run for statewide office, or even worse they don't share the values.


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Agreed. (0.00 / 0)
Other than McEachin and a few others (Englin, Ebbin, Surovell, the Arlington County Democratic Committee, etc.), I'm not really hearing it from other leading Virginia Democrats. Why not?

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That was nine years ago . . . (0.00 / 0)
and it will be twelve years in 2013.

In 2001 McEachin was too ahead of his time, too young.  In 2013 he'll be in his prime.  Don't count him out because 2001.

The Richmonder


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I'd Prefer (0.00 / 0)
I rather see a "gentleman's agreement" among T-Mac, Chap and D-Mac to present a unified ticket with a spot for all three...and no spot for Ward Armstrong.

In my part of the state where Armstrong should be strong, he  angered many, many activist Democrats with the way he hoarded his PAC money when he had no credible opponent and other high-quality Dems got no help from him. He plays the sort of game that has so far guaranteed the Dems can't regain the House of Delegates. Armstrong would be only marginally better as a candidate than Creigh Deeds was.


With a good DPVA chair Deeds would not have been the nominee. (4.00 / 1)
I always believed that if we'd had an urban crescent DPVA chair that person would have convinced Deeds not to make the Dem. primary a three-way race and Moran's dirty campaign wouldn't have split the votes that allowed Deeds to win the nomination by default. Just as importantly, maybe more so, is the fact that a strong and effective chair would have forced Moran to stop his negative attacks so whichever candidate won the primary would have had the public and strong support of the losing candidate and especially his volunteers. But instead we had a party chair who early-on endorsed Deeds and then did nothing of substance to help him win even the rural counties, with the result that Deeds lost the 9th CD where he should have been strongest by a large margin.

I agree that with the mix you mention Terry wins the nomination. Even if Chap can carry NoVa by a large margin, I don't think he has a prayer in the general election in any other areas of the state. And again if the DPVA finally elects an urban area chair - you know I'd prefer Susan Mariner, who knows the people and politics in every area of the state and how to energize grassroots volunteers everywhere - that chair would have the ability to assure that even if Donald and Terry both decide to run they would not run a negative campaign and whichever wins the primary would receive strong support from the other. I am certain the same could never happen with Ward Armstrong - he would have no choice but to run a negative "NoVa vs. Rova" primary campaign, and he is not stong (or well known) among the grassroots and the voters in the Tidewater part of the urban crescent so Ward's campaign would become Urban vs. Rural, which is basically what Deeds ran to stay in his "comfort zone". But I digress just a bit; I don't think Ward would seriously consider running against a powerhouse such as Terry or Donald, and he would bring nothing to either's ticket as LG or AG.

But since Terry is essentially already running I'd bet on Donald joining his ticket as AG so he could correct the damage the current AG will have done by then.

So in summary I think as soon as the 2010 elections are over we need to start building support for a new urban area chair. I believe if we do lose the state Senate majority in 2011, there might be enough Central Committee members with clout to convince Cranwell to step down and let a younger-generation urban area pro-grassroots/pro-netroots person take over. If we can accomplish that one objective by 2012 we have a good chance of winning back some Congressional seats in 2012 and help Obama win re-election, and then we will have a great shot at taking back the governor's mansion the following year along with the AG and LG offices in 2013. Without a strong urban area DPVA chair Virginia could well lose the presidency in 2012 and the GOP could control the state government for another generation.

I might be exaggerating the important of replacing the DPVA chair before the current 4-end term ends, but I don't think so. Right now we have no functioning state party leadership, and with no leadership at the top it is impossible for the progressive voices to be heard.

                     T.C.


Excellent comment, which should be (0.00 / 0)
its own diary! :)  

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I agree! (0.00 / 0)
Excellent analysis, diary worthy. I have absolutely NO problem with your cogent comments on the shortcomings of the present chair of the DPVA. I, too, wish the people in Richmond would realize the power that Susan Mariner has in mobilizing the grassroots. But, then, the present chair doesn't think that the grassroots are important. Never has.

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