Video: NAACP Demands "Come Home to Jesus" Meeting with Jim Webb

His Approach Is Boorish (0.00 / 0)

How about a dignified discussion with this member of his organization?

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by: Dan Sullivan @ Wed Jul 28, 2010 at 22:13:21 PM UTC

The Subheading Was False (0.00 / 0)

The subheading in the interview above was meant to stir up something. Sen.Webb did not call for an end to affirmative action programs. He called for such programs to either address only the discrimination faced by African-American citizens...or be changed to allow some remedy that would make such programs based on income.

I agree that he did not make his point clear. But, as was said in the interview above, Jim Webb is a life member of the Virginia NAACP. That's not what some sort of racist would be.

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by: Elaine in Roanoke @ Wed Jul 28, 2010 at 22:44:51 PM UTC

The subheading (0.00 / 0)

definitely showed ignorance of the substance of Webb's argument as expressed in the WSJ article. But that's on par with what I'd expect of a TV segment (and why I don't watch TV any more).

As for Khalfani's attack... Not much of a surprise here, either. Not after the way NAACP got played (snookered) on Sherrod. Condemn first, think later (if ever) seems to be the rule of the day across the board...

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by: libra @ Thu Jul 29, 2010 at 01:24:54 AM UTC

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As the NAACP continues it's decent into irrelevency (0.00 / 1)

It's nice to know that egomaniacs like  "King" Salim might have to actually go out and get real jobs someday.  The guy's a complete ass hat for his letter and follow-up bullshit.

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by: NotJohnSMosby @ Wed Jul 28, 2010 at 23:16:43 PM UTC

What? (0.00 / 0)

In other words Black people are okay as long as they don't speak their minds and call people out on their bullshit.    

You seem to have a low "negro tolerance level"

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by: tim3444 @ Thu Jul 29, 2010 at 07:48:54 AM UTC

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Regardless of color (0.00 / 0)

an ass hat is an ass hat, plain and simple.  It's doubtful that Salim even read what Webb wrote, much less understood it.  So no, black people - nor anyone - don't get a free pass when they speak their minds and it ends up being bullshit of it's own.

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by: NotJohnSMosby @ Thu Jul 29, 2010 at 14:13:21 PM UTC

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Your Comment Is Unreal! (0.00 / 0)

How do you dare to decide that Salim did not read what was a rather short op-ed piece? Even worse, do you realize what you sound like when you state that he is unable to "understand" it.

When I disagree with GOPers who are spouting what I believe is nonsense, I still don't brand them as too lazy to read or too dumb to understand what they read...with the exception of Sarah "wink, wink" Palin.

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by: Elaine in Roanoke @ Thu Jul 29, 2010 at 19:45:28 PM UTC

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Hmm (0.00 / 0)

Let's see, the guy shoots out a letter that compares Webb to the Ron Paul teabag faction.  Kith and kin, I believe. Well, that brilliant analysis leads me to think that Salim either didn't read it in it's entirety or, if he did, he didn't understand the points that Webb was making.  

Now, is that what  I meant, or was I implying that a whole race of people are unable to comprehend written or oral media?  

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by: NotJohnSMosby @ Thu Jul 29, 2010 at 23:58:41 PM UTC

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NotJohn, (0.00 / 0)

you are getting pretty over the top in your disdain for the main organization representing the interests of African Americans in the US.  Please dial it back, and examine your motives.  You can take issue with anyone, but you're going overboard.  I won't label it, but am beginning to wonder.

And, yes, I have supported the NAACP before and am proud of it.  And no I am not African American myself.  

PS You said "he should go out and get a real job," as if serving one of the most venerable organizations in this nation, isn't a real job.  That's over the line.

There is a concerted effort by the extreme wrong-wing to destroy every component of the Democrats' base and you are inadvertently contributing to that.  You are just not seeing that that is what you are doing.

There's nothing in the middle of the road except yellow stripes and dead armadillos (Jim Hightower). PS I'm on Twitter here.

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by: KathyinBlacksburg @ Thu Jul 29, 2010 at 20:02:48 PM UTC

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Perhaps It's Not Inadvertent? (0.00 / 0)

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by: Elaine in Roanoke @ Thu Jul 29, 2010 at 21:43:39 PM UTC

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I have no disdain for the NAACP (0.00 / 0)

I do have disdain for idiots like Salim.  Big difference, right?

Feel free to call me a racist.  With political correctness these days, if you're critiquing a white guy it's fine, but if you critique a woman,  you're a sexist pig, if you critique a gay guy you're a homophobe, if you critique a black person you're a racist, if you critique a Jewish person you're anti-semitic, if you critique a Latino you're bigotted and anti-immigrant, so on and so forth.

In the end, you have everyone walking around on eggshells afraid to actually say or do something that advances the cause.  

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by: NotJohnSMosby @ Thu Jul 29, 2010 at 23:53:32 PM UTC

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Opportunist (0.00 / 0)

Maybe it's just me, and I admittedly don't have a good grasp on Khalfani's history of service to the NAACP or Virginia, but this comes across as pretty opportunistic. As others have stated, Webb was partly trying to address the income gap (which poor whites feel as acutely as poor blacks, poor is poor these days). The other thing he was addressing was the number of foreign students who get favored under the current system, which could be going to US citizens. I'm not one of those anti-immigrant kooks roaming around out there, but I tend to like the idea of funding the education of people who aren't going to take those skills to another country, especially if there's financial assistance of any kind involved for them. Come here and get an education, continue to make our campuses rich in diversity, I appreciate it and think it makes Americans better people and better suited for the future, but we shouldn't be giving those spots to non-citizens before we're giving them to citizens to meet quotas etc. We definitely shouldn't be paying (even the colleges shouldn't be giving money to foreign students, as far as I'm concerned) for it unless we've got an agreement that they are going to stay and work for a certain predetermined period. We need better educated Americans if we're going to have a chance in the future, and we need to start addressing that problem, here, now. These are not issues of black or white to me, but issues of the countries economic and political future. Webb was specifically saying African Americans should still be at the front of the line for affirmative action programs, and I agree with that. As a country, we still haven't fully addressed the economic realities created by slavery and Jim Crow. He was speaking more to the number of non-American people who are falling under the auspices of affirmative action, which doesn't do well for the United States.

The decline of the American middle class is both a black and white issue, and something we need to address as quickly, creatively and effectively as we can. More of the last generation of blacks went from lower to middle class than ever before. Now, after thirty years of conservative economic policies, the middle class is disappearing, which is also a problem for blacks and whites.  

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by: Damian Karras @ Thu Jul 29, 2010 at 17:17:06 PM UTC

Good Points (0.00 / 0)

You make very cogent points here. I would point out, however, that white women are one of the largest groups receiving affirmative action assistance. As a white woman, I know full well the hurdles that women have had to face in business - and still have to face - but affirmative action programs may not be the way for the government to attempt to remedy that. I absolutely agree with your point about foreign students being favored under the current system. I wish Jim Webb had expressed his concern as well as you did.

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by: Elaine in Roanoke @ Thu Jul 29, 2010 at 19:49:21 PM UTC

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Gotta Agree with NotJohnSMosby... (0.00 / 0)

This King Salim character ... if not a ass hat is a racist. He wants to "call out" Webb as a liar (the NAACP thinks the Tea Party is racist)???

In Jim Webb's first book "Fields of Fire" ... there's a scene where a group of blacks (Marines) set up their own tent to be left alone except by their own kind ... they won't take orders. ... That is of course until the Fierce 1st Sgt (African American) ... goes into the tent and kicks some ass.

Some how King Salim strikes me as one of the guys who would have sat in the tent challenging "whitey's authority" .

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by: Jim Webb Dem @ Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 04:39:22 AM UTC