Virginia NAACP: Jim Webb and Rand Paul "are kith and kin"

Given the tone & tongue lashing.... (0.00 / 0)

This guy seems a likely candidate for the New Black Panther Party. Look for him to appear on Fox News in the near future.  

I mean come on ... Webb poses an argument essentially about the poor (with race being a factor in different ways) ... Webb argues for fair treatment of everyone and exposes conditions that undermine that.

My personal disappointment with the Virginia NAACP comes from their puppet stance in sticking up for the Omega Protein Menhaden Reduction Plant out on the Northern Neck. They argue for jobs .... jobs that seriously impact the Cheaspeake (and East Coast waters) at the hands of some oily fishy corporate types.

My conclusion .... they'll say anything to advance a narrow cause. Be interesting to know how this guy got elected to his post.

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by: Jim Webb Dem @ Tue Jul 27, 2010 at 00:27:56 AM UTC

Parts of the Webb op-ed were poorly written (0.00 / 0)

Webb's op-ed used a lot of very convoluted and vague language, but the NAACP's response was disproportionate.

I can only hope that this results in everyone involved sitting down and coming to a new consensus.

Oh, and even if you are a great writer, as Jim Webb is, you still need a speechwriter to review and brush up your writing, to pose questions like "it sounds like you are implying X; do you really want to imply that?"

The Richmonder

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by: The Richmonder @ Tue Jul 27, 2010 at 00:36:56 AM UTC

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Interesting comments (0.00 / 0)

The issue with the Democrats and the Black community is as Cynthia McKinney puts it some White dems have  a "negro tolerance level"  Blacks are only permitted to speak their mind to a point in order to be seen as acceptable to (some) Whites.  Blacks must also engage in system justification or defend the status quo and not talk about racism in America to be acceptable to Whites.  Their is a large body of research by psychologist Jack Dividio on aversive racism which is a form of modern racism exhibited by White liberals against Blacks.  You should read his work

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by: tim3444 @ Thu Jul 29, 2010 at 06:53:00 AM UTC

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I don't entirely agree with Senator Webb (0.00 / 0)

And I don't know the Senator personally, but something tells me he would punch a teabagger in the face if he saw them spitting on a member of Congress, especially if it were based on race.

Also did that guy just say "African members of the House of Representatives"!?  I didn't know there were any!

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by: antonio_m_elias @ Tue Jul 27, 2010 at 03:39:37 AM UTC

Why? (0.00 / 0)

I am still trying to figure out why he even stepped into the mud on this in the first place, especially at this time.  And then to turn out something that is going to bring attacks from many sides.  


Mere parsimony is not economy. Expense, and great expense, may be an essential part in true economy.
Edmund Burke

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by: blue bronc @ Tue Jul 27, 2010 at 09:11:48 AM UTC

I'm not speachless, I agree (0.00 / 1)

The sniveling by self important white boys is getting out of hand. America had 300 years to oppress blacks and only 45 years currently to reverse the deeply ingrained intuitional "racial preferences" and you cry uncle and enough. Tough. Suck it in and man up.

It's hard to understand Webb with the hood, he really should take it off when whining.

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by: Mike1987 @ Tue Jul 27, 2010 at 22:47:14 PM UTC

Read "Born Fighting" (0.00 / 0)

where Webb, some time before running for election to the US Senate, described the culture of the Appalachian Scotch Irish, who have spread out across the countryside, that is the poor,(originally) rural, often-called redneck culture, in fact. He made the excellent  point that the African-American and the rural poor whites of the South had much in common economically, but had been artfully kept apart by the Southern white elite. This point can readily be confirmed by any acute observer. He then went on to say that that politician who could bring these two together would create a mighty political power.

I believe this op-ed is his opening gun in trying to do that, and it would seem that both parties (African-American and poor white) are too locked into their own tunnel vision to recognize what a great opportunity this is for both them and the Democratic political party.The NAACP is in some ways every bit as barnacle-encrusted as the upper echelons of the Democratic Party.

IF Webb could bring this off it would utterly destroy the famouse Southern Strategy of the GOP.

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by: Teddy Goodson @ Tue Jul 27, 2010 at 23:33:04 PM UTC

Webb is unafraid to see things as they are ..... (0.00 / 0)

I'll provide you an example... I know from personal experience. I worked for a company run by a "dark" skin man who came from India, studied engineering ... studied some more ... got an advanced degree and started a business doing "studies" for the US Air Force.

He built up his business with the help of "minority status" small business set aside provisions in federal contracting laws. Why should he get any preferences at all?

A beautiful genteel man for sure .... but why should he get any preferences as an immigrant??

That's a central point in Webb's piece .... worth writing and talking about. Many of the commentators here need to learn nuance and tact when expressing themselves.

Webb's the real deal.

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by: Jim Webb Dem @ Wed Jul 28, 2010 at 00:11:18 AM UTC

There's no reason someone like that (0.00 / 0)

should get any preferences at all. It's ridiculous that he's considered a "minority" for this purpose; among other reasons, it unfairly gives programs for people who REALLY need the help a bad name!

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by: lowkell @ Wed Jul 28, 2010 at 00:14:12 AM UTC

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What strikes me (0.00 / 0)

as really "funny" is that, shorn of an imprecise/clumsy word/phrase here and there... when you think about it... both Sherrod and Webb are expressing the same idea: long term, it's not the colour of your skin that matters; it's what's in your pocket/bank account...

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by: libra @ Wed Jul 28, 2010 at 04:06:15 AM UTC

Many questioned why Webb .... (0.00 / 0)

wrote the Wallstreet OpEd in the first place. libra has the answer above.

Jim Webb expanded on what was the "moral" or "lesson" given in Sherrod's speech. That was his motivation .... his angle .... his thoughts on a matter he has studied and spoken about in the past.

In the sound bite snippet world we live in (like quotes posted on "Meet the Press") .... you lose the continuity / context of the thought, argument or in Sherrod's case ... the life story.

Webb was offering a view ... his view ... of what is fair and how a very worthy program morphed with unintended consequences.

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by: Jim Webb Dem @ Wed Jul 28, 2010 at 10:14:06 AM UTC

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I Called The NAACP (0.00 / 0)

Unlike Mr. Khalfani, I read the article in the Journal.  I think it was a mistake for Senator Webb to allow the Journal to give the article such a totally idiotic title.

I called the NAACP to tell them what is in the article.

The information about Mr. Khalfani on the state NAACP website is revealing.

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by: leedynamo @ Wed Jul 28, 2010 at 20:50:15 PM UTC